I just got back from kung fu classes with the new instructor, and I'm a bit confused. On the one hand, he does seem to know what he's talking about (although I'm a bit dubious of his title as Master, but what do I know?). On the other hand, there were only six other students in his class, and they were all rank newbies, with the possible exception of his wife.
When I arrived, he was just finishing up with a t'ai chi class, where he was teaching a group of students a sword form. All of those students looked like novices, too. When I arrived a bit early, he asked me to just take a seat until the kung fu class began. "T'ai chi is slow," he said. "Kung fu is fast and hard."
No problem. I mean, how could he know about my martial arts background, right?
So class begins. He is teaching an 18-move form called Hong Ga. First of all, he demonstrated the form. It's very short, and looks a little bit like fook fu, so I suspect it may be a Hung gar form (hong ga sounds an awful lot like hung gar, dontcha think?). Then he gets all of the students to do a blocking exercise using the first two movements of the form. So far, so good. It's basically a mirror hand block done with closed fists. He pairs me up with his wife. She punches, and I block. She winces. She punches again, I block again, and she winces again. She pauses for a moment to go take off her wristwatch (WTF???). We continue, and she winces more. She's wearing a stone bracelet on her other wrist. It doesn't come off. Maybe she put it on as a child, because there's no way that thing will come off without a few dislocated bones or without breaking the bangle. So I tell her just to punch with the other hand, and that way I won't hit her bracelet. She smiles and nods, and we continue that way, but I can tell she's hurting. I ease off a bit with the strength of my blocks, but I guess it's not enough.
The instructor cycles another one of his students over to me. This one is a strapping young lad with forearms almost as big as my thighs. Ahh, I think. I can use some force again! So I go full force on my blocks, and he winces, too.
I cycle through pretty much every one of the students, and I think I beat the crap out of each of them with my forearms of terror. Those arms are swollen now. I'd better find the tiger balm....
Then we work on the next move in the form: stepping forward into an arrow stance while simultaneously doing a sun punch and a mirror hand block. Sifu's arrow stance is high, so I assume the movement is supposed to be done high. But then he explains that the stance is done according to one's degree of strength and flexibility. So when he says that, I decide to go into my usual low arrow stance. I'm the only one there with a low stance. The stances of the other students, aside from being high, are atrocious. I don't think any of them have ever been taught stances before. They either stand like they're on a tightrope, or they're open so wide in the front a transport truck could drive through. Warning bells are sounding in my head.
Then we work on applications for this movement. I'm to punch at my partner while he deflects and punches back. However, and this is a big however, we are not actually supposed to touch the other person with our punch. However, we're still supposed to punch straight for the centre line. Wha? How am I supposed to do these things while doing blocks properly? So my buddy punches at me, I step forward in an arrow stance, block the punch and throw another simultaneously. In just stepping forward into the arrow stance, I'm already close enough to touch him with the barest extension of my arm. How am I supposed to exercise the technique if I'm not allowed to touch my opponent? So I decide to do the full punch, but to my opponent's side.
Sifu comes over and says no, no. Aim for the centre line. So I do, but since I can't extend my arm for the punch without hitting the guy, I have the lamest, bent arm punch, ever. Ick.
Despite all the things I didn't enjoy about this class, the instructor was able to correct my movements during the form in a way that made perfect sense to me.
I'm really not sure what to think about this class. He's been teaching for at least a year or two (I've seen posters up that long), so where are his experienced students? I'll keep with him for the month, but as soon as I can get back to my kwoon, I'm outta there.
When I arrived, he was just finishing up with a t'ai chi class, where he was teaching a group of students a sword form. All of those students looked like novices, too. When I arrived a bit early, he asked me to just take a seat until the kung fu class began. "T'ai chi is slow," he said. "Kung fu is fast and hard."
No problem. I mean, how could he know about my martial arts background, right?
So class begins. He is teaching an 18-move form called Hong Ga. First of all, he demonstrated the form. It's very short, and looks a little bit like fook fu, so I suspect it may be a Hung gar form (hong ga sounds an awful lot like hung gar, dontcha think?). Then he gets all of the students to do a blocking exercise using the first two movements of the form. So far, so good. It's basically a mirror hand block done with closed fists. He pairs me up with his wife. She punches, and I block. She winces. She punches again, I block again, and she winces again. She pauses for a moment to go take off her wristwatch (WTF???). We continue, and she winces more. She's wearing a stone bracelet on her other wrist. It doesn't come off. Maybe she put it on as a child, because there's no way that thing will come off without a few dislocated bones or without breaking the bangle. So I tell her just to punch with the other hand, and that way I won't hit her bracelet. She smiles and nods, and we continue that way, but I can tell she's hurting. I ease off a bit with the strength of my blocks, but I guess it's not enough.
The instructor cycles another one of his students over to me. This one is a strapping young lad with forearms almost as big as my thighs. Ahh, I think. I can use some force again! So I go full force on my blocks, and he winces, too.
I cycle through pretty much every one of the students, and I think I beat the crap out of each of them with my forearms of terror. Those arms are swollen now. I'd better find the tiger balm....
Then we work on the next move in the form: stepping forward into an arrow stance while simultaneously doing a sun punch and a mirror hand block. Sifu's arrow stance is high, so I assume the movement is supposed to be done high. But then he explains that the stance is done according to one's degree of strength and flexibility. So when he says that, I decide to go into my usual low arrow stance. I'm the only one there with a low stance. The stances of the other students, aside from being high, are atrocious. I don't think any of them have ever been taught stances before. They either stand like they're on a tightrope, or they're open so wide in the front a transport truck could drive through. Warning bells are sounding in my head.
Then we work on applications for this movement. I'm to punch at my partner while he deflects and punches back. However, and this is a big however, we are not actually supposed to touch the other person with our punch. However, we're still supposed to punch straight for the centre line. Wha? How am I supposed to do these things while doing blocks properly? So my buddy punches at me, I step forward in an arrow stance, block the punch and throw another simultaneously. In just stepping forward into the arrow stance, I'm already close enough to touch him with the barest extension of my arm. How am I supposed to exercise the technique if I'm not allowed to touch my opponent? So I decide to do the full punch, but to my opponent's side.
Sifu comes over and says no, no. Aim for the centre line. So I do, but since I can't extend my arm for the punch without hitting the guy, I have the lamest, bent arm punch, ever. Ick.
Despite all the things I didn't enjoy about this class, the instructor was able to correct my movements during the form in a way that made perfect sense to me.
I'm really not sure what to think about this class. He's been teaching for at least a year or two (I've seen posters up that long), so where are his experienced students? I'll keep with him for the month, but as soon as I can get back to my kwoon, I'm outta there.
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Date: 2005-02-01 03:22 am (UTC)From:I ordered the tea sample months ago (perhaps you remember, perhaps not), and it hasn't arrived. I'm rather sad.
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Date: 2005-02-01 03:47 pm (UTC)From:Too bad about the tea! Ah well.
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Date: 2005-02-01 03:36 am (UTC)From:About your blocks: I'm not meaning to criticize, but I'm curious: when you block correctly, in Shotokan Karate anyway, it's more of a deflection than a "block", as in you flip your attacker's strike away with a rotation of your arm as opposed to battering it away. Of course, being unskilled, I tended to batter, but I occasionally got one right and it felt very different (and nice in that it didn't hurt). Is the way you're trained to block different?
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Date: 2005-02-01 03:43 am (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2005-02-01 03:50 am (UTC)From:Aikido is excellent, that's one to learn. I was also impressed by Shotokan in the time I took it. There is a very good dojo here in Fredericton, tons of black belts who really know what they're doing. It was exactly the opposite of what Shan experienced, in that more than half the members where high-ranking belts. Of course, this could indicate a "belt-factory", but in this case it didn't, there were just a lot of people there with a lot of time invested and skill learned. When I was last in contact with them we were practicing at the YMCA, though I have no idea if they are still there.
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Date: 2005-02-01 03:29 pm (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2005-02-01 03:26 pm (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2005-02-01 03:40 am (UTC)From:I know how ya feel about bruised forearms after blocks, too. Why were y'all blocking so hard? I mean sometimes a hard block is what's called for ('cuz nothing else will stop the attack), but isn't the goal usually just re-direction of force rather than hard deflection? (I always admired how the Aikido people used this to their advantage, for example.)
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Date: 2005-02-01 04:32 am (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2005-02-01 03:23 pm (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2005-02-01 03:45 pm (UTC)From:The hard block in this particular instance was the application. I prefer deflections, but that wasn't the move in the form. This is another reason why I'm pretty sure the form I'm being taught is a Hung Gar form (also, Hong Ga sounds suspiciously like Hung Gar, don't you think?). Hung Gar incorporates a lot of brute strength, which is why it's probably a style I'm not best suited for, being long and lean rather than short and solid. I think I'm built more for styles like Mantis and Wing Chun which are more about speed and accuracy than strength and fortitude.
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Date: 2005-02-01 04:16 am (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2005-02-01 03:47 pm (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2005-02-01 04:47 am (UTC)From:people have where they realise the
grass isn't really greener, eh?
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Date: 2005-02-01 03:24 pm (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2005-02-01 04:56 am (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2005-02-01 03:48 pm (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2005-02-01 02:51 pm (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2005-02-01 03:51 pm (UTC)From:I don't necessarily believe it is a teacher's fault for having few advanced students. I find the average student, in whatever area of study, lacks the drive to continue. I think it takes a certain amount of tenacity for people to continue past the introductory stage.
Of course, it can also mean the teacher sucks. Heh.